Paj1369 funny how some things have a habit of that - rubbish for what they are meant to do but work wonders on something else - bad news for the queen wasp

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I used a little fairy & lemon juice at the weekend, I had to try to keep up with sport bikes on a twisty road

so there was some rapid breathing going on

, the inside of my visor didn't steam up - the conditions where dry but it did make a difference I think