TeeCee
Misleading title, but here is the story:
Driving ban for biker who filmed death
Saturday, June 13 10:32 am
A speeding motorcyclist who filmed a fellow biker's death crash with a camera fixed to his petrol tank, has been banned from driving for three years.Skip related content
Frederick Bowden, 42, was caught riding at 156mph on his 1,000cc bike in Camborne, Cornwall last summer.
Beside him on July 13 was Andrew Prowse, 46, whom Bowden was unwittingly filming with a camera mounted on his Kawasaki ZX10-R.
An inquest in March heard that Mr Prowse, from Helston, Cornwall clipped a car and was thrown under an oncoming camper van to his death.
Police found that his final collision 300 yards from the Loggan's Moor roundabout in Hayle was captured on Mr Bowden's camera which was still running.
Bowden, also of Helston, later pleaded guilty to a single charge of dangerous driving and was sentenced to a three-year ban by a judge at Truro Crown Court. He was also given a 51-week prison sentence, suspended for two years.
He was not charged in relation to his companion's crash.
fastjock
Very misleading title , how the media like to hype things up
ghosthunter
They have actually dumbed it down. It was reported that they had been caught doing 70 in a 30 and had been exceeding the limits by a large ammount all day. They topped out at 170 when the police examined the video.
Sad that a fatality occured but theres a time and a place for loonacy, its called a racetrack. No wonder people want to legistate against us when stuff like that is plastered all over the press!
We all know we are our own worst enemies but its time for the saner amongst us to stand up and call a wan*er a wan*er and dissassociate ourselves from the plainly stupid actions of the minority, I'm sick to death of being branded a nutter purely because I ride a bike.
Rant over. (probably)
Deleted Member
Tend to agree with Ghostie - they were an accident waiting to happen, and it did. Sad.
(but don't think Ghostie is called a nutter just cos he rides a bike)
TeeCee
A racetrack? You mean one of those places with a super grippy specialist surface, no man holes/drains/mud/roadkill, run off areas, no blind corners, no oncoming traffic and no danger of harming innocent motorists or pedestrians?
I was outraged at 156mph but 170?? I mean, come on!!
I hereby motion that we should be allowed to give any rider wearing knee sliders on a public road a Chinese Burn....
Or how about as part of their punishment (when caught) a few hours of community service clearing up the aftermath of fatal accidents?
(..and Ghosty - rest assured you would be branded a nutter even if you weren't on a bike!)
Deleted Member
Total agreement teecee
Dragon13
Yup, total agreement from me too
ghosthunter
TeeCee you always have to go too far!
Chinese burns! I would have been content with a simple Nelson style point and "haahaaa" but a chinese burn man, honestly!
And I'm NOT a nutter! wibble jellyfish artichoke golden retriever.
Matt
here's the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5EpaXG0yFw
(PLEASE DO NOT VIEW IF EASILY UPSET! THIS VIDEO IS GRAPHIC. SEE COMMENTS BELOW FOR MORE DETAILS AND DISCUSSION)
comments?
Deleted Member
thats just made me feel sick.
chunkichick
with u on that ian
and ghostie
Roachy
I'm not opening that link - I have no desire to watch anyone meet their death and it's why I don't watch bike racing, it's too visual when accidents happen.
Hoping I never witness anything like that in real life or it happens to anyone I know or care about. I know accidents will happen but I just can't bear to actively seek it out to watch.
geoffb2005
I ain't gonna watch it.
I've had enough accidents myself (at nowhere near those speeds) to know what it's like first hand and ever since I've hated on board footage of crashes. Brings back too many bad memories.
Like Ghostie says, there's a time and a place for silly speeds and it's on a racetrack. Track days are relatively cheap and plentiful nowadays and very, very safe. I've known of a couple of big crashes on track days, but it's thankfully rare that anyone is badly hurt.
After all, it's rarely the coming off that causes the injuries but the what you hit afterwards. I sustained my biggest injuries at less than 30mph!! Sliding straight into a parked car can do that.
Yes, I do occasionally exceed 100mph on public roads, but it isn't often simply because it is very rare that it's safe to do so and it's almost never that I do 120, 130 or whatever. This is simply because you can't.
I am also with Ghostie in a big way regarding being branded a nutter etc. I have worked very hard over the last twenty odd years trying to do my bit in the business I am in to encourage motorcycle usage and trying to make them appear more acceptable to the general public. I truly believe that bikes are the best answer to the UKs congestion problems. Pedal cycles for commutes of less than ten miles and motorcycles for commutes of 6/7 miles or more.
As such reports like this make me truly angry.
If you want to travel at high speed book yourself a track day.
If you don't then make sure you ain't the one complaining about increased legislation against bikers in front of me cos I'll bite.
(And bullfrogs eat everything!)
Wills
Well, I swallowed hard and watched it. For those thinking of opening the file, it does in fact stop momentarily before the point of impact.
Typical case of someone riding like a loon and giving himself no margin of error, I'm afraid. His end was totally self-inflicted, yet I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Also a graphic illustration that if you brush against another vehicle, or a wall on one side, wrenching the bars round, it'll send the bike careering off in the opposite direction. Gyroscopic forces on the front wheel make it inevitable. Poor sod never had a chance with another vehicle coming the other way.
Deleted Member
Personally i think it should be banned from youtube. A bit irresponsible of them if they do in fact know about it.
Wannabe
It's footage filmed from the TV coverage of it, not the original footage... I suppose if Sky News feels it's acceptable broadcasting, who are YouTube to argue?
I make you right though Ricdude - it has no place in the public arena. But then I refuse to watch Sky News due to their tabloid style coverage anyway.
Deleted Member
Wouldn't be so bad to remove the link from here either.
Wills
I'd have no problems with it being pulled from You Tube, even though I've seen it now. Trouble is, there's plenty of footage on You Tube of people dying horrible deaths for real - just search on plane crash - so I doubt if you'd get anywhere.
What's worse anyway? Moving footage just stops short of the final collision, or a still that some papers used of the point of impact? I haven't got any answers to that one.
Deleted Member
No-one has the answers to it.
I understand that what your saying Wills but this is close to alot of peoples heart on this site.
excalibur
a couple of comments from viewers left me cold , no respect at all ...r.i.p.