Now, this is getting getting interesting!!
Glad to see that people are not taking things personally, cos this really is an interesting conversation. I know its a little off topic and although i DO make some generalisations about the character of the people of this country, it is no way meant to belittle anyone at all
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Kwakgirl-yeah you are right (in a way) about the constitution. Insofar as the UK does not have a codified and specific one like the United States. But to say "that is why common law exists!" is mistaken. The US constitution was written based on English Common Law (which in turn has evolved over the centuries from decisions made in jury courts) and on documents which DO make up our constitution such as Magna Carta 1215, and the Bill of Rights 1689.
So in fact its the other way round-the constitution exists because of the common law. In fact the americans felt so indebted to the english common law, they paid for a monument to be erected at Runnymede (where Magna Carta was sealed, in case you didnt know).
emzed-you can say a lot with so few words lol, but yeah your right education can be dangerous (especially political and social educaction).
Helmethair- ofc it would be wrong of either of us to presume that we "know" each others position on any matter and if i gave that impression i apologise. in the nature of these forums its hard to tease the information from all parties without upsetting someone through a little misunderstanding.
I am a little like you in that i have only a passing interest in the conspiracy theory thing, lol i went to a meeting in stockport once and came away thinking omg what a bunch of nutters!!
anyway, on the matter of rules and laws, you asked me to explain. If you look in the middle of my last post you will see this sentence-
My overall point is that if you cause no harm, injury or loss to another human being, then you should be able to live your life in peace. OFC this depends on everybody doing the same.
IF another human being believes i have transgressed against them in some way, then i can be taken to court (arrested if needs be) and for me to give an account of myself before a jury, and for that jury to decide my innocence or guilt. AND if indeed i HAVE committed a crime then i deserve any punishment the court thinks appropriate.
Would you agree this sounds sensible and fair?
I do. This is the law which i am prepared to be subject to. Its English Common Law-its there to protect us. But its been subsumed and repealed by various acts of parliament and turned into a revocable privilege rather than an absolute right!
As i said in a previous post Acts of Parliament are statutes which are defined as "legislated rules of society given the force of law by the consent of the governed" which means they are rules. And i do no consent!
You keep quoting acts of parliament as though they are the guiding principles of our society, whereas i believe that human beings living under a common held belief in core values of fairness, honesty and decency should be our guide. Backed up by our traditional common law.
OK, acts of parliament..... lets consider one...say the 1911 Parliament Act. This effectively abolished the duty of the monarch to give Royal Assent for any Bill passed through the house. So, the bedrock of our constitutional settlement has been usurped!!!!
Heres another one, there is another "law" in this country (i'll leave people guessing on this one) and if i fall foul of this ACT then i can be:
searched in the street (any money found in my pockets can be taken)
have my passport revoked
have my driving license suspended
be sent to prison
have money taken from my accounts (including savings and pension schemes)
and more.........
and all this WITHOUT being found guilty of ANY crime. In a court.
Sounds familiar?
Like the 1930's?
somewhere perhaps like......Germany?
Under the Nazi's?
Well, it's the "law" in this country.
in conclusion, there IS a difference in laws and rules, sometimes the law is an ass and sometimes rules should be broken. Thats my threepenorrth.
wes pu hal (it means, loosely, good health to you)
ps, just got onto that Emzed. yeah, a "little" education is VERY dangerous.